Jelani Cobb:::::hangman's chambers: interview w/ stanley crouch

or "The Transcription Needs Some Work But It's Good Reading Nonethless"
"A point that I make that a lot of people don’t really get because they think universal humanism is something you inhale. See, the fundamental human attitude is xenophobia. Getting to the pint where the other is not the enemy is a big leap. Because we live in our period, we think people just automatically knew. You go to Africa now an people in one tribe don’t think people in other tribes are human. You’d never know that listening to people in the UN but tribalism is the father of racism."